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	<title>Comments on: From JSP to Ruby on Rails: First thoughts on front-end coding conventions</title>
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		<title>By: charlie bowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlie bowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One solution I&#039;ve used is to create a presenter for each one of the displayable models.  Each presenter can follow the same inheritance structure as the model and can really help to clean up those nasty helper methods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One solution I&#8217;ve used is to create a presenter for each one of the displayable models.  Each presenter can follow the same inheritance structure as the model and can really help to clean up those nasty helper methods.</p>
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		<title>By: Piotr Sarnacki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Piotr Sarnacki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About javascript. I think that creating accessible and unobtrusive apps with ajax is a matter of not mixing javascript code and view code. So anyway, I don&#039;t use rails helpers at all.

I try not to use rails js callbacks either, for keeping my javascript out of rails. But this one isn&#039;t necessary for unobtrusive app.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About javascript. I think that creating accessible and unobtrusive apps with ajax is a matter of not mixing javascript code and view code. So anyway, I don&#8217;t use rails helpers at all.</p>
<p>I try not to use rails js callbacks either, for keeping my javascript out of rails. But this one isn&#8217;t necessary for unobtrusive app.</p>
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		<title>By: JONNALAGADDA Srinivas</title>
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		<dc:creator>JONNALAGADDA Srinivas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice analysis!  On a couple of reasonably large Ruby on Rails projects (over 100,000 lines of Ruby code), I have seen views accumulate business logic inseparably.  For comparison, liftweb has &quot;views with no controller/model logic&quot; as one of its core principles.  DPP admits, though, that the opposite (view logic creeping into controller) is more difficult to stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice analysis!  On a couple of reasonably large Ruby on Rails projects (over 100,000 lines of Ruby code), I have seen views accumulate business logic inseparably.  For comparison, liftweb has &#8220;views with no controller/model logic&#8221; as one of its core principles.  DPP admits, though, that the opposite (view logic creeping into controller) is more difficult to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Pierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brian, thanks for an interesting, insightful writeup. It sounds like you may find haml/sass/blueprintcss useful/delightful in your further Rails travels.

Haml/Sass: http://haml.hamptoncatlin.com/
Compass(blueprint integration): http://github.com/chriseppstein/compass/tree/master</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian, thanks for an interesting, insightful writeup. It sounds like you may find haml/sass/blueprintcss useful/delightful in your further Rails travels.</p>
<p>Haml/Sass: <a href="http://haml.hamptoncatlin.com/" rel="nofollow">http://haml.hamptoncatlin.com/</a><br />
Compass(blueprint integration): <a href="http://github.com/chriseppstein/compass/tree/master" rel="nofollow">http://github.com/chriseppstein/compass/tree/master</a></p>
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