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	<title>Comments on: Keeping up with Firefox 3: Improvements, bugs and missing features in the new bookmark manager</title>
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		<title>By: Arindam</title>
		<link>http://www.pathf.com/blogs/2008/03/keeping-up-with/#comment-4194</link>
		<dc:creator>Arindam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can some body tell me how to update the Bookmark Database.
Scenarios:
I have intalled FF3.0 in system A. I have some bookmark in system A. I also have a system B with FF3.0. Now I wanted to import all the Bookmark from System B and update the System A FF3.0 Bookmarks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can some body tell me how to update the Bookmark Database.<br />
Scenarios:<br />
I have intalled FF3.0 in system A. I have some bookmark in system A. I also have a system B with FF3.0. Now I wanted to import all the Bookmark from System B and update the System A FF3.0 Bookmarks.</p>
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		<title>By: Heiko</title>
		<link>http://www.pathf.com/blogs/2008/03/keeping-up-with/#comment-3186</link>
		<dc:creator>Heiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I don't see why it makes sense to store bookmarks in a database. For me as user it is easier to copy a flat file than to save a database!
Second, I don't see how to organize my bookmaks too. I have entries in my Bookmarks pull-down, that don't show up in the organize dialog.
Please re-establish bookmarks in the way they used to be, thanks a lot!
PS: This is Firefox 3.0.1 on Linux</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I don&#8217;t see why it makes sense to store bookmarks in a database. For me as user it is easier to copy a flat file than to save a database!<br />
Second, I don&#8217;t see how to organize my bookmaks too. I have entries in my Bookmarks pull-down, that don&#8217;t show up in the organize dialog.<br />
Please re-establish bookmarks in the way they used to be, thanks a lot!<br />
PS: This is Firefox 3.0.1 on Linux</p>
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		<title>By: Pieter vL</title>
		<link>http://www.pathf.com/blogs/2008/03/keeping-up-with/#comment-3096</link>
		<dc:creator>Pieter vL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With FF2, using the bookmark manager, I was able to see ALL of my bookmarks in one array if I wanted to.   I could see bookmarks NOT in a folder, the folders below it, AND the contents of any of those folders if I wanted to see that.   So bookmarks at various hierarchical levels were visible simultaneously.  Which, importantly to me, meant I could view the RHS window and FIND any bookmark easily.   Critical as I maintain 1000+ bookmarks.

Now with FF3, based on my shallow review of it, I can only view the contents of ONE folder at a time.   Which means I either have to remember the name of the bookmark to search for it, OR recall where EXACTLY it is.   I tend to do neither.   As a result, I have deleted FF3 and returned to FF2.   I will not upgrade until FF offers the old functionality via a manager in some newer version.  Its just too critical to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With FF2, using the bookmark manager, I was able to see ALL of my bookmarks in one array if I wanted to.   I could see bookmarks NOT in a folder, the folders below it, AND the contents of any of those folders if I wanted to see that.   So bookmarks at various hierarchical levels were visible simultaneously.  Which, importantly to me, meant I could view the RHS window and FIND any bookmark easily.   Critical as I maintain 1000+ bookmarks.</p>
<p>Now with FF3, based on my shallow review of it, I can only view the contents of ONE folder at a time.   Which means I either have to remember the name of the bookmark to search for it, OR recall where EXACTLY it is.   I tend to do neither.   As a result, I have deleted FF3 and returned to FF2.   I will not upgrade until FF offers the old functionality via a manager in some newer version.  Its just too critical to me.</p>
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		<title>By: jaj</title>
		<link>http://www.pathf.com/blogs/2008/03/keeping-up-with/#comment-3086</link>
		<dc:creator>jaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My beefs with Firefox 3 bookmarking:

- Poking the "Bookmark This Page" actually creates a bookmark as soon as you poke on it, then it brings up the tiny, non-resizeable "Page Bookmarked" dialog.  If you want to change the folder where the bookmark goes, you have to poke the pulldown button next to the "Folder" entry, but it only shows about 7 rows, so I end up scrolling a lot (and the dialog isn't resizeable, so that's annoying).

- I can't have the same site bookmarked more than once.  I used to have 3 bookmarks for Yahoo.com, and I had the login names as part of the bookmark title to remind me what the logins were.  Now, I only have the first one.

- I much prefer the old FireFox 2 all-folders-expandable-in-a-single-pane view, vs. the new Firefox 3 left-pane-is folders, right-pane is current folder's contents.

- Now that the currently selected bookmark's properties are displayed in the bottom of the bookmark window, if you accidentally poke in there and change a value, there's no OK/Cancel buttons to approve or cancel the change.

- The "Bookmark This Page" menu entry actually creates the bookmark and then brings up the aforementioned dialog that lets you change where the bookmark resides.  The "Done" button does nothing, while the "Cancel" button removes the bookmark.  Philosophically speaking, it really shouldn't create the bookmark anywhere at all until you poke "Done", and the "Cancel" button should just exit without doing anything -- that's the way 99% of every other dialog in every other windows application works.

- Just as in FireFox 2, when you search in FireFox 3's bookmark window for a bookmark, it doesn't show you where the heck your bookmark resides, it just presents all the matching ones in a folderless list.  I would really like to know what folder the requested bookmark resides in.

- I use FF3 at work, and FF2 at home.  I used to export my FF2 bookmarks to an HTML at work and bring them home and import them into FF2 bookmark file, but now I can't do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My beefs with Firefox 3 bookmarking:</p>
<p>- Poking the &#8220;Bookmark This Page&#8221; actually creates a bookmark as soon as you poke on it, then it brings up the tiny, non-resizeable &#8220;Page Bookmarked&#8221; dialog.  If you want to change the folder where the bookmark goes, you have to poke the pulldown button next to the &#8220;Folder&#8221; entry, but it only shows about 7 rows, so I end up scrolling a lot (and the dialog isn&#8217;t resizeable, so that&#8217;s annoying).</p>
<p>- I can&#8217;t have the same site bookmarked more than once.  I used to have 3 bookmarks for Yahoo.com, and I had the login names as part of the bookmark title to remind me what the logins were.  Now, I only have the first one.</p>
<p>- I much prefer the old FireFox 2 all-folders-expandable-in-a-single-pane view, vs. the new Firefox 3 left-pane-is folders, right-pane is current folder&#8217;s contents.</p>
<p>- Now that the currently selected bookmark&#8217;s properties are displayed in the bottom of the bookmark window, if you accidentally poke in there and change a value, there&#8217;s no OK/Cancel buttons to approve or cancel the change.</p>
<p>- The &#8220;Bookmark This Page&#8221; menu entry actually creates the bookmark and then brings up the aforementioned dialog that lets you change where the bookmark resides.  The &#8220;Done&#8221; button does nothing, while the &#8220;Cancel&#8221; button removes the bookmark.  Philosophically speaking, it really shouldn&#8217;t create the bookmark anywhere at all until you poke &#8220;Done&#8221;, and the &#8220;Cancel&#8221; button should just exit without doing anything &#8212; that&#8217;s the way 99% of every other dialog in every other windows application works.</p>
<p>- Just as in FireFox 2, when you search in FireFox 3&#8217;s bookmark window for a bookmark, it doesn&#8217;t show you where the heck your bookmark resides, it just presents all the matching ones in a folderless list.  I would really like to know what folder the requested bookmark resides in.</p>
<p>- I use FF3 at work, and FF2 at home.  I used to export my FF2 bookmarks to an HTML at work and bring them home and import them into FF2 bookmark file, but now I can&#8217;t do that.</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
		<link>http://www.pathf.com/blogs/2008/03/keeping-up-with/#comment-2364</link>
		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally don't understand how I am supposed to organize my bookmarks now.

Why did they change it?
I am NOT a techie, so I really don't see any improvement.

All I know is:
I used to be able to sort my bookmarks into folders, etc.
And now - I can't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally don&#8217;t understand how I am supposed to organize my bookmarks now.</p>
<p>Why did they change it?<br />
I am NOT a techie, so I really don&#8217;t see any improvement.</p>
<p>All I know is:<br />
I used to be able to sort my bookmarks into folders, etc.<br />
And now - I can&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.pathf.com/blogs/2008/03/keeping-up-with/#comment-997</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 02:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe another suggestion:
I hate that Firefox doesn't have this feature, nor can I find an extension to add this simple, (should be standard) feature. I might have to create it myself.

In FF3 RC1, I just dragged the specific subfolder from the bookmarks list into a new email (thunderbird).  This created a properly hyperlinked list that may be useful for sending emails.

You can also drag the subfolder into a new HTML file in Dreamweaver, useful for creating your own bookmarks list (not so much if you don't have Dreamweaver).
Doesn't work for Notepad or Office Word though.

Cheers.

P.S. SOMEONE MAKE THIS EXTENSION</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe another suggestion:<br />
I hate that Firefox doesn&#8217;t have this feature, nor can I find an extension to add this simple, (should be standard) feature. I might have to create it myself.</p>
<p>In FF3 RC1, I just dragged the specific subfolder from the bookmarks list into a new email (thunderbird).  This created a properly hyperlinked list that may be useful for sending emails.</p>
<p>You can also drag the subfolder into a new HTML file in Dreamweaver, useful for creating your own bookmarks list (not so much if you don&#8217;t have Dreamweaver).<br />
Doesn&#8217;t work for Notepad or Office Word though.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
<p>P.S. SOMEONE MAKE THIS EXTENSION</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.pathf.com/blogs/2008/03/keeping-up-with/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No Drag and Drop at all?&lt;br /&gt;
How on earth could that be possible!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I decided that there was no way on earth the Mozilla devs were still living in the 80's so I decided to check Bugzilla... surely someone filed this as a bug.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sure enough: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381255&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Looks like it's supposed to work, but is broken at the moment.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Drag and Drop at all?<br />
How on earth could that be possible!</p>
<p>I decided that there was no way on earth the Mozilla devs were still living in the 80&#8217;s so I decided to check Bugzilla&#8230; surely someone filed this as a bug.</p>
<p>Sure enough: <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381255" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381255</a></p>
<p>Looks like it&#8217;s supposed to work, but is broken at the moment.</p>
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