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	<title>Comments on: Get in the Flow (Task Flow that is)</title>
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		<title>By: Alice Toth</title>
		<link>http://www.pathf.com/blogs/2007/09/end-to-end-flow/#comment-796</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice Toth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;James, you rock!! In my experience, developers totally understand and get workflows. Business people don't necessarily get it until you walk them through one and then, as you say, they get that it really shows the customer interaction.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Where I struggle most is in dealing with people who understand the theory of software design, but have never really been involved in software projects. They either don't understand workflows or they're not conceptual or something. That's still a challenge I need to overcome. :)&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, you rock!! In my experience, developers totally understand and get workflows. Business people don&#8217;t necessarily get it until you walk them through one and then, as you say, they get that it really shows the customer interaction.</p>
<p>Where I struggle most is in dealing with people who understand the theory of software design, but have never really been involved in software projects. They either don&#8217;t understand workflows or they&#8217;re not conceptual or something. That&#8217;s still a challenge I need to overcome. <img src='http://www.pathf.com/blogs/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James Breeze</title>
		<link>http://www.pathf.com/blogs/2007/09/end-to-end-flow/#comment-795</link>
		<dc:creator>James Breeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Alice, &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Workflows must be mandated in transactional UI design (not so much in informational UIs).  If a UI designer can't do them they should be shot! &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In my business we have been promoting detailed user interface workflows for years now. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They serve the following purposes:&lt;br /&gt;
- Absolutely no question of what users want - They can even replace scenarios and personas if you like. &lt;br /&gt;
- Completely clear communication to designers and developers on exactly how the interface fits together.&lt;br /&gt;
- Unquestionability (is that a word) for my clients that this UI design stuff is really really complex. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The thing I often hear is 'oh, we are just reskinning our application for another (customer) audience.  The functionality is the same so the UI is easy.'  That is so untrue for transactional apps and workflows demonstrate the value of detailed interaction design. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One of my partner companies only asks for workflows as a deliverable now.  They are smart and the government sites they do use similar patterns, but with different workflows.  The workflow gives them the insight they need about customer interaction and any more work by my HCI consultants IN THEIR CONTEXT is a waste.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks    &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alice, </p>
<p>Workflows must be mandated in transactional UI design (not so much in informational UIs).  If a UI designer can&#8217;t do them they should be shot! </p>
<p>In my business we have been promoting detailed user interface workflows for years now. </p>
<p>They serve the following purposes:<br />
- Absolutely no question of what users want - They can even replace scenarios and personas if you like. <br />
- Completely clear communication to designers and developers on exactly how the interface fits together.<br />
- Unquestionability (is that a word) for my clients that this UI design stuff is really really complex. </p>
<p>The thing I often hear is &#8216;oh, we are just reskinning our application for another (customer) audience.  The functionality is the same so the UI is easy.&#8217;  That is so untrue for transactional apps and workflows demonstrate the value of detailed interaction design. </p>
<p>One of my partner companies only asks for workflows as a deliverable now.  They are smart and the government sites they do use similar patterns, but with different workflows.  The workflow gives them the insight they need about customer interaction and any more work by my HCI consultants IN THEIR CONTEXT is a waste.</p>
<p>Thanks    </p>
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		<title>By: Alice Toth</title>
		<link>http://www.pathf.com/blogs/2007/09/end-to-end-flow/#comment-794</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice Toth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, David -- I'm glad to hear someone else finds them just as useful. What I like is that they're not a technical diagram like, say, a db schema so they're easily understood by non-developers as well. &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, David &#8212; I&#8217;m glad to hear someone else finds them just as useful. What I like is that they&#8217;re not a technical diagram like, say, a db schema so they&#8217;re easily understood by non-developers as well. </p>
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		<title>By: David Cumps</title>
		<link>http://www.pathf.com/blogs/2007/09/end-to-end-flow/#comment-793</link>
		<dc:creator>David Cumps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I recently started using Visio again, and must say I'm pretty impressed by how easy it is to make these flows. They've proven to be a great source of documentation to explain some of my work to peers.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently started using Visio again, and must say I&#8217;m pretty impressed by how easy it is to make these flows. They&#8217;ve proven to be a great source of documentation to explain some of my work to peers.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice Toth</title>
		<link>http://www.pathf.com/blogs/2007/09/end-to-end-flow/#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice Toth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Craig -- I'll be sure to check it out!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Craig &#8212; I&#8217;ll be sure to check it out!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Moser</title>
		<link>http://www.pathf.com/blogs/2007/09/end-to-end-flow/#comment-791</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Moser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lombardi Software has a free Web-based tool, Blueprint, that helps you discover, map, and visualize a process. Much like you describe here. https://blueprint.lombardi.com/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lombardi Software has a free Web-based tool, Blueprint, that helps you discover, map, and visualize a process. Much like you describe here. <a href="https://blueprint.lombardi.com/" rel="nofollow">https://blueprint.lombardi.com/</a></p>
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